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Post by eibhlin on Jul 28, 2016 17:55:35 GMT
I do spray them often to make them move. But i can't see the difference between both species yet. They look a lot the same still. I hope i will have some cepaea to choose between to keep 2 or 3 of them.
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Post by Borini. on Jul 28, 2016 19:25:32 GMT
I've had more success with babies that I've placed into ventilated Tupperware tubs. Food can be placed everywhere so the snails can't miss it, and humidity can be kept consistently very high to encourage growth. I've found when left in my terrariums some baby snails would just forget to eat, stunting their growth, and sometimes leading to death.
They are just miniature adults after all - but sometimes require a little more intervention. I often just place isolated babies on food to encourage chow time.
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Post by eibhlin on Jul 28, 2016 20:33:51 GMT
Well 2 hatches are in a small tank. But the ones that hatched without me knowing it are in a bigger plastic tank. They seem to find the food quite well. I just checked the tank before going to bed and the food was very crowded. The Helix baby's seem a bit more active than the overall Cepaea.
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Post by eibhlin on Jul 30, 2016 9:56:16 GMT
New update. The snails are now about a month old since they started hatching. I'll keep some updates of them, maybe someone one day may find them helpful since i couldn't find anything like this. The snails have grown quite a bit, especially the Helix a. The Cepaea n. are still small but doing great as well. Tank 1: This is the small breading box i got from exo terra. Not much in there but a food dish. Tank 2: he tank i found my surprise in + some of the baby's i found in my big terrarium that i also moved in it with plants and all. In here they don't sit all at once at the food dish. Sometimes during the day it's more crowded than it is in this pic. The baby's seem to enjoy sliding around and sleeping on the plants. They also seem to eat the plants so i have no idea what will be left of them when the snails are big. The Helix a. baby's are starting to get a shell pattern. Some have dots while others have lines on them. I tried to take a close up picture where it is visible (not easy to stuff a phone in a tiny box...) The Cepaea, the smaller snails in this picture, don't seem to have any change in shell coloration yet. And here is their furry, way to nosy, guardian
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Post by jolovessnailies on Jul 30, 2016 14:35:49 GMT
Lovely pics hun, thanks for sharing. Kitty is really cute.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by Borini. on Jul 30, 2016 20:40:51 GMT
Fantastic photos. Loving the plants. The cat is beautiful too!
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Post by eibhlin on Aug 4, 2016 7:06:10 GMT
An other update. The Helix a snails seem to develop the fastest of both species. Their shells are starting to become brown and not translucent anymore. The Cepaea still have a beige translucent shell. Some of the Cepaea are still soooooo tiny. I tricked some of them to crawl on a leaf and i put them on some sweet potato with fishflakes on it.
I also started moving them from that super tiny box to a tank like the pink one. Most Helix a and some Cepaea are in there now (eating my plants away). There are still a lot of Cepaea in the small tank. I thought, maybe thats a good thing to keep them separate? Maybe the big ones interfered with them wile eating. We'll see.
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Post by jolovessnailies on Aug 4, 2016 9:24:31 GMT
Thanks for the update hunni, they sound adorable. I would think that is you suspect some are not getting enough food, it is good to separate. I would have done the same.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by eibhlin on Aug 4, 2016 10:57:23 GMT
Small question. Is it ok to keep juveniles in a tank that have quite a different size? Not that there isn't already between the cepaea and the helix. But there was a small Helix juvenile on my window. After taking a close look i noticed it has his shell a bit damaged on the lip. So i thought maybe i can give him a chance and then release him when recovered along with the others. One baby snail more or less... I scooped in a spoon of my hypoaspis mites that are still alive and kicking just in case he has bugs on him. He did seem clean and i washed him before taking him in. He's in the tank with the other Helix a snails. There are only a few baby cepaea in there but mostly helix like he is. I think he is double the size of my helix baby's.
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Post by Borini. on Aug 7, 2016 6:46:15 GMT
He will be fine. Baby snails are quite fragile and I've saw a lot of damaged lips given this is newer growth. The snail will recover and grow back.
I've saw smaller snails agitate bigger snails in the past but never vice versa. They should be fine given size differences.
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Post by eibhlin on Aug 7, 2016 11:02:05 GMT
Yeah some super tiny ones were sleeping on it's shell haha. He's been sleeping a lot but the first snail i got with damaged snail did that to.
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Post by etana on Aug 7, 2016 16:32:59 GMT
I've saw smaller snails agitate bigger snails in the past but never vice versa. They should be fine given size differences. Lol, this! Adults are careful with babies, but sometimes it seems the babies have a foul mouth or something and need to be disciplined a bit. The adults do this by restricting the babies' movement with their lips or edge of foot for a few minutes, and then let them go.
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Post by eibhlin on Aug 7, 2016 18:19:55 GMT
Aw Well they don't really have an adult in there Only a big baby snail and small baby snails. The tank that i split seem to do very well. I didn't remove all the big helix baby's but there are waaaay less. And i notice that the little ones are more active now. So maybe to keep in mind for the future or for others to keep both species maybe separate. Not that they bother each other but i think the very small cepaea's have a hard time finding their place. There are a few capaea that are big and they seem to manage the big helix better.
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Post by eibhlin on Aug 14, 2016 12:34:13 GMT
Ok an other update. Part of the Helix seem to be at a good size by now. Problem is that other half are still small(er). So maybe i'll just keep them all till the end of the month. The Cepaea are now mostly all in the same tank, some exceptions aren't because i haven't been able to get them out. Next time i will deferentially keep both species in separated tanks. I don't seem to have that many cepaea considering how many eggs there were. I honestly don't have a clue where they went... There don't seem to be that much of them in my small tank. Maybe some did die without being noticed. I haven't really counted them.
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Post by jolovessnailies on Aug 14, 2016 13:34:31 GMT
Thanks for the update hun and I hope the smaller ones catch up soon. Mine are different sizes, the biggest being Golly who is always in the food bowl lol!! I am sorry you have lost some of your eggs, it is hard to keep check of them all though love.
Hugs Jo xx
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