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Post by koppite on Jan 21, 2010 14:44:29 GMT
just a tad worried about my 2 new tigers i got from keira, they are both approx 5-6 inch shells..... they are both well retracted when i got them, and have had them in their new pads since weds am, and thought with the heated room they would pop out......anyway, still not moved come today, so have bathed them with warm water, and there was little movement but nothing to write home about, so i have put a heat mat under the part where they are 'hibernating' with a hope of getting them active......how long should i leave the mat under the tub (its on the outside) as i know underneath isn't the best, or should i just tape it to a side wall next to them? Just hope the winter curse doen't strike here too  |
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Post by Dusk on Jan 21, 2010 15:21:59 GMT
Tigers are slow about everything, usually - including waking up  I'd leave them in the warm and spray them periodically and see how they do. The heat mat would probably be best at the side, though, just as a safety precaution. |
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Post by welsh on Jan 21, 2010 15:37:10 GMT
I've had this happen I had two that where so retracted I didn't think they would make it but I kept spreying them and i put them ontop of some thiny sliced sweet potatoe and the next day they where fine. They are probably shaken after going through the post and the temp drop hopfully in a few days they will be slimming about. Do you know what the temp is in the tank?
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Post by crossless on Jan 21, 2010 15:55:23 GMT
I have heard if you like that in spring some hibernating snails as pets to home and put them in tank, it could take them few days to wake up ans slowly warm up. That could be happening with your tigers if you just got them. :]
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Post by Amber on Jan 21, 2010 20:12:00 GMT
My middle room which i keep my more exotic snails in is so warm it isn't comfortable to be in there some days and my tigers still need their heat pad to keep them lively and happy. If i take it off or put new substrate in, because it gets cooler than they are used too they pull in and dont come out sometimes for days at a time. As long as the humidity is right up, and the temp is ok as everyone has said, keep spraying, washing them, sit them on some of their fav slices of food and just keep your eye on them. Hope they are ok. |
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Post by feebix on Jan 21, 2010 20:54:55 GMT
And you reeeeally don`t want a heat pad under the tank, that`s not a good idea at all. Always on the side.....
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Post by koppite on Jan 21, 2010 21:27:10 GMT
cheers peeps, mat was only under for a short time, so now its heating from the end they are sleepng at, one has coe out ever so slightly, the other seems to be sticking to its guns.....
will get temps tomorrow from inside the tub, but during the daytime the room temp is anywhere between 28-30degrees, dropping at night to approx 20-22 degrees - but with the added heat via the mat for the tigers, i'll see if they agree with the change, although my others were active at night prior to the mat going on.......
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Post by koppite on Jan 22, 2010 14:50:13 GMT
GUTTED  - just checked the tigers after getting in from work, one of my big new ones has died, picked him up to have a look and the brown liquid ran out and the stench of fish ....the other big one is still in there not quite as retracted but still not active.......will get some fresh food in to try and tempt him out, butternut squash goes down well so will try this.... temp inside the is 29degrees, some of the smaller ones are active but a few are not - is it worth putting another small het mat on to boost the temps a bit more to see if it brings them round? Gutted |
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Post by choco on Jan 22, 2010 17:18:08 GMT
GUTTED - just checked the tigers after getting in from work, one of my big new ones has died, picked him up to have a look and the brown liquid ran out and the stench of fish ....the other big one is still in there not quite as retracted but still not active.......will get some fresh food in to try and tempt him out, butternut squash goes down well so will try this.... temp inside the is 29degrees, some of the smaller ones are active but a few are not - is it worth putting another small het mat on to boost the temps a bit more to see if it brings them round? Gutted Sorry to hear that Try a nice bath/soak in warm water for the others which may well bring them out. It's OK to leave them in the water for a couple of minutes. If/when they start to peek out, put them directly onto some food and see if they eat. |
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Post by welsh on Jan 22, 2010 17:42:45 GMT
Oh no i'm sorry to hear this, Its od they don't seem to have recovered from their journey where they in the post long? maybe it was too much for them the temp drop or something? I presume they where fine before they where posted. Sounds like your set up is fine. Hope he comes around x
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Post by AlienSnail on Jan 22, 2010 18:01:39 GMT
Aw no that's very sad. Poor little guy. I'm guessing it was the temperature changes of the journey that made him poorly, some of them really don't cope well with change. Aw... The very best of luck with the others. |
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Post by crossless on Jan 22, 2010 18:22:21 GMT
In Finlan most caring snail keepers have "limist2 when they send snails, I think one had somethng like Europe/Natives +5celius and for more exotic +10. Finland it's much colder place so maybe donät post snails winter and the post office is something not so trustworthy. Hope all the rest ones will be fine. |
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Post by snailcrazy on Jan 22, 2010 18:57:15 GMT
Sorry to hear about your snail. |
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Post by koppite on Jan 22, 2010 20:28:11 GMT
yeah, cheers guys - hear what your saying with the cold spells and posting out etc, but this is the only snail i have lost that have been delivered this way in around 4 or 5 deliveries with snails in - the pair of tigers in question are 'thought' to be wild caught, which i know tigers can be more finicky the best of times, poss this combined with cooler traveling temps set the tiger back a tad too far and was not able to pull through - i did what i could and tried my very best - just a shame my best was not quite good enough .....Mr. T is now buried out in a flower bed under the stars, see you later lil fella |
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Post by Amber on Jan 22, 2010 22:46:15 GMT
Aww hon, really sorry. I agree with morningcoffee. A good soaking normally draws them out even if the spraying doesnt. When i got some tigers from brixton market not all of them survived. They are very very sensitive to environmental changes. Maybe with planning it would be best to gradually warm them rather than put them straight into a heated tub after theyve travelled in such cool temps....... ive only just thought of this now of course. Sorry. The last one of my tigers from brixton that looked on and off i soaked a few times a day and for most of the time i was at home i just carried him around in my hand. Every 20-30 mins i would pour warm water with a couple of drops of liquid calcium in over him and i had pawpaw (papya) in my hand (nice and sticky) that i was carrying him in which helped to draw him out eventually. It seems to be the fav food of choice of all of my wild caught tigers. By the end of that day he was out alot more than in and is a strong happy healthy tiger now. Not sure if it was that which did it or not, but its worth a try...... my arm ached the next day though.... he's a big tiger.
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I'd leave them in the warm and spray them periodically and see how they do. The heat mat would probably be best at the side, though, just as a safety precaution.
- just checked the tigers after getting in from work, one of my big new ones has died, picked him up to have a look and the brown liquid ran out and the stench of fish 
