Rumina decollata Information

[stixandsnailsyork]

Hi every one i have recently bought some adult rumina decollata and would like any information on their housing. what i know is
They have to be kept with their own species
They eat other snails
they will eat salad sweet potato and other fruit and veg like other land snails

I would like to know if they are best on moss or on coir and if they have any other needs (diet, housing and so on)

They are due to come tomorrow so any information would be great.

Thanks

Stix. x

[choco]

Jun 14, 2010 11:06:20 GMT stixandsnailsyork said:

Hi every one i have recently bought some adult rumina decollata and would like any information on their housing. what i know is
They have to be kept with their own species
They eat other snails
they will eat salad sweet potato and other fruit and veg like other land snails

I would like to know if they are best on moss or on coir and if they have any other needs (diet, housing and so on)

They are due to come tomorrow so any information would be great.

Thanks

Stix. x

I think you can feed them on other meat too - whether you want to give them live food like worms or slugs or you'd rather give them something like pork, bacon or mince is up to you

I think they originally come from the Meditteranean so they probably like it warm, but I would expect that room temperature would be OK - don't know for sure though. I've heard that they will burrow and hide away under the substrate if it's too cold or dry, so that could be a good sign that they need their conditions changing. I've also heard that they don't like it TOO hot either, which is why I said room temperature would probably be fine As far as I know they prefer soil or coir at least 4 - 5cm deep.
I don't think you could keep them with another species as they would be likely to prey on them, but they rarely eat members of their own species so they should be fine in a group on their own.

Let us know how you get on with them, I'm interested in these snails but don't have space to keep any atm!

[stixandsnailsyork]

Thats fab thanks choco, I had heard they are used to control pest snail out breaks.
I will post pics when they come and let you know how we keep them. I have a tiny heat mat i will try popping that on one end and see where they like to be warm end or cold.
I have the same problem i am running out of space very quickly i have tanks and vivs every where but keeping them is very addictive
I started with 2 baby fuli and now have around 20 fuli, lots of retics lost count, 3 puys we lost 1 last week, lots of albopicta, 4 adult breeding tigers, lots of tiger juvs, flemmea, iredalei, jadatzi, about 40 rodatzi they are my sons and once they hatch he decides he is keeping them, about 100 subulina octona, 4/5 full albino jadatzi they are in with the rods, immac var panthera, immac var immac, Albino retics, Albino jades marginata var sutralis and marginata var ovum and isabella I think thats it, not a bad collection when you see it like that lol. Oh we also have helix and gravel snails so you can imagine how many tanks i have got and soon to add albino marginata we have all sized tanks from small hatching tanks to small fishtanks for grow out tanks right up to 6" tanks/vivs, Fun for cleaning them all out and bathing them lol

[Alisha]

I thought Immac Var. Panthera and Immac Var. Immac were the same?
I'm sure they changed it and decided Panthera actually wasn't a subspecies anymore?
Either way, Stevepulley on here keeps them, I don't think he comes on that much but it might be a good idea to ask him as well? xx

[stixandsnailsyork]

I bought them as 2 different subspecies so i keep them in that way I only bought the panthera a few weeks ago as babies will have to ask about and find out, if there not I will put them in together will have another free tank then for another species. No i have really got to stop buying but when a species comes up i don't have i cant help myself any one else have the same problem?
Thanks for the info Alisha will keep an eye out for that member being on. x

[Alisha]

He's also on RFUK, so I could get him to pop on and talk to you?

Don't worry about, probably just me rambling on. I do know that "Panthera" rasp on any other Immacs shell. So I'd still keep them seperate. I was just wondering if you knew anything more? Because I read that due to cross breeding within the Immac species it became a bit too mixed up to tell the difference. I'll see if I can find a link for it incase anyone's interested.

[stixandsnailsyork]

I bought my panthera and var immac from dusk. i will have to have a look at them and see if there is any real differences. I don't think dusk would have sold them as them subspecies if they wasn't she knows her snails.
Will go and have a look at the differences now and let you know.
The link would be fab thanks alisha

[Alisha]

Oh, scratch what I said. I'm probably talking rubbish again LOL.
I have a habit of doing it when I'm hungry

[stixandsnailsyork]

I have had a look at them i have both subspecies of the same size there is definate differences in the shell colouration i got my hubby to have a look and he dosen't like the snails and even he could tell the difference. I will try and get a decent pic posted if my dongle dosent run out on me.
If its some thing you have read you are bound to believe it i would have, or maybe its true and there has been alot of cross breeding and there is not many true panthera or immac left. x

[Alisha]

There was a thread on Petsnails, it was about "Pantheras" rasping problems. A woman dileberately put a snail in with them over night and took some pictures. Terrible damage ect. and people were questioning why it was done when there is not true subspecies Immac Var. Panthera. This got me wondering a bit (not to mention confused!) and I just though I'd mention it. Because they were wondering why it should be just "Pantheras" doing it when so many were crossbred you can't tell the difference. But hey, I could be talking bobbins!
I just thought it could be a valid point to bring up, but I refuse to question Dusk's judgment on principle that she seems to be always right

[Dusk]

Hiya guys Not sure how I feel about this pedestal you're putting me on!!

There probably is a degree of interbreeding and from a biological point of view I'm sometimes not sure how much validity should be given to varients. In this case, the original stock came to me ID'd as var. panthera, and there have definitely been confirmed incidents of cannibalism in the adults' generation, the babies' generation and I believe the grandparents' as well.

We'd need a full necropsy for a definitive analysis, but in this case I feel it's fair to keep the lable of panthera for these, if for no other reason than awareness of their habit of cannibalism. I would not feel happy keeping any descendents of this stock with other species, as I do get reports of their destructive behaviour from time to time still. The shells of my stock do seem to be gracile for immacs, but they're such a polymorphous species in general that I don't think that can be taken as definitive evidence in itself.

[stixandsnailsyork]

Hiya Dusk Thats great at the end of the day you know your snails. Mine are doing great all 8 are thriving we lost 3 of the var immacs for no reason the other one is doing great so odd.
Great to see you back on. x