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Post by jackyelliott on Sept 7, 2010 19:55:00 GMT
i can not believe they are allowed to keep and sell these snails in the conditions that they do
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Post by mikaela on Dec 4, 2010 21:29:59 GMT
How is he now? I hope he's made a recovery
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Post by vicky1804 on Feb 23, 2011 18:52:57 GMT
Be they are much much happier with you, they are very nice looking snails
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Post by jolovessnailies on Feb 27, 2011 13:27:17 GMT
Thank you for saving them, they are lucky little snailies now. Some people want stringing up fior the way they treat little creatures.
Jo xx
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Post by choco on Feb 27, 2011 19:52:49 GMT
How is he now? I hope he's made a recovery The final tiger did indeed survive, and I still have him He's doing really well - lazy, grumpy and greedy ;D By the way, I did receive a reply from the Lambeth ward councillor who I wrote to, to talk about the conditions the snails are kept in, and the problem of selling rarer species. She forwarded it to the local Food Standards team, and I eventually got this response from them... "Dear Cllr Heywood, Thank you for brining this matter to our attention. Following your enquiry we liaised with a number of agencies to ensure that the matter is properly addressed. In terms of food safety, this is an area of much debate. The Food Standards Agency (FSA) and the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) are the main agencies which provide us with guidance on how to deal with the importation and sale of African Land Snails. We have consulted with both the FSA and Defra but are still waiting for clarification. In general terms however, laws regarding food safety and what types of animals are permitted for human consumption are set at a European Community level. At a local level we would not be able to restrict the species or number of snails imported and sold in the borough. In the meantime, the Food Safety Team has carried out a number of unannounced visits to food businesses in the Brixton area. Officers identified premises which they felt were likely to sell giant African Land Snails using their past experiences and local knowledge. At the time of the visits only one of the five premises had a small quantity of live African Land Snails displayed for sale. The Food Safety Officer, Mr Stradling did not have any immediate concerns regarding the safety and welfare of the snails however he discussed the safe handling of the snails with the staff at the premises. In addition to this a guidance letter was left on site for the owner’s attention. In a second premise a small quantity of frozen snails, still in their shells, were displayed for sale. The owner was unable to provide suitable documentation to show that the snails had come from a legitimate source. As a consequence Mr Stradling deemed that the snails had been imported illegally and were not processed in accordance with current Hygiene Regulations. Mr Stradling therefore removed the snails from sale. The owners of the remaining three premises advised us that they do offer giant African Land Snails for sale. Although they did not have any snails in stock at the time of the officer’s visits a guidance letter was left with each of the businesses for future reference. The Food Safety Team has also liaised with the Council’s Animal Welfare department with a view to conducting joint working visits. We will continue to monitor the situation and once we have clarification from the FSA and Defra will take appropriate enforcement action. If your constituent has any further concerns it would be helpful if she contact the Food Safety Team directly, particularly if there is a specific premise for which there are concerns. I hope you find my response to your query satisfactory. "
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Post by jolovessnailies on Mar 1, 2011 13:40:25 GMT
Poor little chums, I too can't understand anyone finding snailies revolting. One lady once said something similar to that when we were looking at a tarantula in a pet shop. I told her to take a good long look in the mirror!!
I do not tolerate hatred of these poor innocent and lovely little creatures.
Jo xx
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Post by AlienSnail on Mar 4, 2011 22:08:41 GMT
Good for you, Jo! Choco thanks so much once again. Their main concern then is food safety and not the snails, as I would expect to be honest. It would appear that the species issue has not been addressed though. One important point you made was that the A.fulica are abundant whereas the A.achatina are dwindling fast in numbers due to over collection. What is needed I feel is a total ban on the import of the A.achatina for food purposes. Although none of us like the import of any of the snails I wouldn't expect a ban on the poor fulica due to the dire-straits that would leave some of the people in Africa in. It is a shame that the welfare standards was not deemed as unacceptable. It ius clear to anyone buying the snails that there are many in the process of dying.
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