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Post by GlitterBug on Jun 15, 2016 22:27:37 GMT
There is little information online about which snails can cross breed with each other. I've only recently found out that a Iredalei can breed with a Fulica which to me is very odd! Not that there was information about if young were able to survive and such. Anyway I think it would be a good idea if we could get a list together of all the species which can breed with each other so it can be added into a care sheet of which snails should not be housed together (Or to be extra vigilant when housing together) Anyone up for the task? I can see what I can gather myself but I'm very dusty when it comes to snails
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Post by GrandTouringShell on Jun 16, 2016 0:43:14 GMT
Wait, I know Iredalei and Fulica are both in the lissachatina genus, but iredalei gives live birth as apposed to fulica which produces hard external eggs. If this is truly possible, I can imagine the hybrids probably being mules or having reproductive problems... I've heard of the fulica X albopicta cross many times, but cepaea nemoralis X hortensis or even vindobonensis is something I'd really like to learn more about.
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Post by GlitterBug on Jun 16, 2016 13:47:01 GMT
I will try find the website, I thought I had taken a screenshot of the picture they had of the pair breeding. - scr@p that, I found it. www.petsnails.co.uk/care/breeding.html If you scroll down to the cross breeding section, you can see the picture of them mating
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Post by eilisnail on Jun 17, 2016 1:01:59 GMT
I read on the petsnails board that apparently most of the time when fulica breeds with iredalai the iredalai dies shortly afterwards. :/
GrandTouringShell - AFAIK cepaea hortensis and nemoralis are unable to hybridise as their anatomy is too different.
This is something I'm also interested in, and in fact I posted a thread about this exact topic yesterday on petsnails! I'll copy my post from there and paste it here:
"I've looked for a definitive answer on this subject, but can't find one so thought I'd throw it out to the petsnails community. Can lissachatina fulica and lissachatina reticulata hybridise? (Note: I do NOT want to hybridise them, I want to know if it's safe to keep them together without them interbreeding.)
Some sources seem to say any lissachatina species can hybridise with any other lissachatina species. Others say retics and fulicas absolutely cannot hybridise. Does anyone have any definite knowledge, or first-hand experience with this topic? I absolutely do not want to keep them together if there's any chance of them hybridising.
I know lissachatina can't hybridise with achatina, archachatina can't hybridise with lissachatina, achatina can't hybridise with archachatina. But what about within each genus? Can any achatina hybridise with any other achatina, any lissachatina with any other lissachatina, any archachatina with any other archachatina? Or can only specific species within each genus hybridise? If anyone could point me towards a well-researched source on this subject I would be *extremely* grateful!"
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Post by GlitterBug on Jun 17, 2016 15:36:12 GMT
Please keep us updated! I don't use Petsnails anymore, I can't remember my account password ^^; But if someone has any information on this please let us know
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Post by GrandTouringShell on Jun 18, 2016 18:09:24 GMT
eilisnail What about Cepaea nemoralis X Cepaea vindobonensis? Or would their anatomy probably be too different too? Based on some of the lissachatina stories I've read, Fulica seems to be the most eager to go interracial with other snails, but the other snails often don't want them. LOL! As funny as this may sound, it definitely explains why we have such limited answers to questions like lissachatina fulica X lissachatina reticulata, lissachatina fulica X lissachatina zanzibarica and so forth.
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Post by eilisnail on Jun 18, 2016 18:28:20 GMT
eilisnail What about Cepaea nemoralis X Cepaea vindobonensis? Or would their anatomy probably be too different too? No idea, I'm afraid - I don't know very much about cepaea vindobonensis! Sorry! Yeah, those sleazy fulicas will get into bed with anyone! I'm extremely careful about mixing snails because I want to know exactly who the two parents are of a clutch of babies. I have four tanks of GALS. One has 2x marginata ovum and 2x fulica white jade, another has 2x marginata ovum albino and 2x fulica normal, another has 2x tigers and 2x fulica jadatzi, and the last has 2x fulica rodatzi and one lonely albino tiger (still looking for an unrelated spouse for him). As lissachatina can't crossbreed with either achatina or archachatina, there's no danger of hybridisation, and everyone mostly gets along very well with all their tankmates. Yesterday, though, I caught the larger of my two rodatzi (sub adult) coming on to my albino tiger, who was not amused!
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Post by etana on Jun 18, 2016 20:37:56 GMT
I once heard of a fulica who tried to woo a cuttlefish bone. Mine don't do that at least, lol.
Off topic, but the funniest thing I saw was when a tiny fulica hatchling was snailing on an adult's back, and stopped to rasp exactly the spot that the adults kiss during courting. The adult thought he was being woo'd and was ready in seconds! He was stretching up and back, all "where are you, love?!", saw the tiny baby, looked confused for two seconds, but then the baby rasped again and the adult was like "that DOES SO GOOD", stretching really long all aroused hahaha.
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Post by jolovessnailies on Jun 18, 2016 22:37:52 GMT
Ha ha, maybe he should have gone to Specsavers! You may not understand that love but there is an advert on TV which shows unlikely scenarios and the end caption is "Perhaps he/she/they Should Have Gone To Specsavers." Specsavers is a nationwide opticians. Hugs Jo xx
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