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Post by malibubarbie on Dec 14, 2009 11:48:08 GMT
Hi guys...
I like to be prepared so even though its not my time yet I have some questions i need to get answered now.
When you fin clutches of eggs so you move them to another container or keep them to hatch in their parents box?
You do keep the little ones in a separate container, right?
Ive seen that some keep the newly hatched one damp kitchencloth, why?
I have some baby iredalei and when the are big enough they will give birth to live babies right ?
Sorry for my stupid questions, but ive been reading and reading but I coulnt find the answers i needed.
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Post by Dusk on Dec 14, 2009 12:38:48 GMT
When you fin clutches of eggs so you move them to another container or keep them to hatch in their parents box? Either of those. If you have adults prone to eating their own eggs, it's best to move them, but some species have a lower hatch rate if you move their eggs, so it's a case by case situation. You can. Some people prefer to, some don't. It's easier to keep track of them that way, especially if there're millions of the little darlings No idea... it's easy to keep damp, I suppose, and easty to replace, but I prefer coir or moss. Yep.
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Post by feebix on Dec 14, 2009 12:55:03 GMT
Kitchen cloth? you`ve got me there, never heard of that one. As for moving eggs, the larger snails are likely to bulldoze them or eat them, the former is more likely in my experience. When you move them, try to make sure they are kept in the same position ie not turned upside down. I do this by using a plastic medicine spoon to lift not only the eggs, but the compost they are laid in too,you won`t be able to lift the whole clutch but just do it a bit at a time. Carefully place them in a small container of compost. I cover mine with a layer of damp moss, lifting it now and again to check them. When you see they are starting to hatch, put a little bit of lettuce in there. I keep my babies in small tubs for quite a while. Raising babies is just great ! You can even see thier little hearts beating when they`re first born ! ;D Oh by the way, when you`ve put the eggs in a little tub, keep that tub in your tank at the warm end..... Good luck ! You`ll have babies before too long...
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Post by malibubarbie on Dec 14, 2009 12:55:28 GMT
Thanx Just out of curiosity, who has a lower hatch rate if you move their eggs ?? Feebix - maybe i didnt say it right, English isnt exactly my mother-tongue Wet or damp kitchen towel, toilet paper - make more sense ?
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Post by feebix on Dec 14, 2009 12:59:18 GMT
As far as I`ve experienced, everyone apart from Fulicas ! I have moved my C.Marginella eggs and sometimes I have whole clutches that don`t hatch, although if I`m careful enough I can manage it.
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Post by Dusk on Dec 14, 2009 13:43:01 GMT
As for moving eggs, the larger snails are likely to bulldoze them or eat them I've got a lot of larger snails and I've only got one margie who habitually bulldozes eggs... but with new snails' first clutch, I usually want to keep a very close eye to see if they do have any inclination to smush them. The only way you find out who is clumsy is when you find egg fragments Why is this? Is it a factor in hatch rate, do you know?
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Post by feebix on Dec 14, 2009 14:03:51 GMT
With reptile eggs, you have to be really careful not to change the angle they were laid at because within the egg there is an air bubble, change the angle of the egg and you drown the baby inside it. Although it might not be exactly the same thing with snails, the way I see it, if there are problems with hatch rates when moving eggs, which we know there are, something similar is going on inside the egg so I observe the same precautions. It`s a lot easier to do when your faced with eggs in a clump of compost as it hold them together. I`ve got a tiny little spoon that I can lift individual eggs with but you can`t help but move a few around sometimes.....
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Post by Dusk on Dec 14, 2009 14:22:27 GMT
Oh, interesting to know - that could explain the lower hatch rate for eggs moved but otherwise kept in exactly the same conditions.
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Post by feebix on Dec 14, 2009 14:38:26 GMT
It`s a bit of a nightmare trying to keep eggs from Margie Ovums or something protected in the communal tank really, I lost my first batch of eggs from them recently I did my best to protect them by putting a plant pot over tham, unfortunatly it collected water.....
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Post by crossless on Dec 14, 2009 15:32:16 GMT
I would remove eggs from tank. You may get too many hatchlings.. So I think it's better destroy eggs befpre they hatch if you don't want hundreds of snails. I found other day one drown baby snail from waterfall. I forgot to take it off from there when I first saw it there, it took atleast hour to drown poor little thing. It made me sad even little bit I would not keep it life anyway but sad that it had long death.
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Post by feebix on Dec 14, 2009 16:20:49 GMT
Depends on the species really, Margies will only lay seven to ten eggs, all of which I wanted... Fulicas are a different story, hatch a full clutch of those and you`ve got problems! Very easy trap to fall into though that, especially with your first snail, it seems so easy to rehome a few snails but it`s not, everybody who has snails doesn`t want Fulicas ! So yes, only hatch a few of those or you`ll be over run with them in no time...
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Post by crossless on Dec 14, 2009 17:27:00 GMT
Yes, after fulicas die someday I think I try some other species something really huge. I'm getting soon over 300litre tank, I'm not gonna fill it up with fulicas, just let my 8fulicas live rest of their lives and find then some other species and I think I get fed up fulicas after they all been gone nice to hunt 8clutches per month, lol.
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Post by malibubarbie on Dec 14, 2009 17:42:11 GMT
I keep and breed leopard geckos and have done for several years with great success, and its not ENTIRELY true about the reptileeggs.... the first week or so you could actually do almost whatever to them, but as soon as the the baby starts to develop you should be fairly careful to place the egg as it was if moving it so the baby inside doesn't drown. I cant WAIT to get my first snailies - I have 3 grown normal fulica´s so get better get their groove on BUT I will not hatch a full batch, that would be rather crazy.... Although I have a lot of friends in the reptile-world, its almost impossible to convince people that snails are the way to go ;D
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Post by feebix on Dec 14, 2009 21:50:40 GMT
Ooooooooooh yes it is ! lol Even without the presence of an embryo, there are still blood vessels forming and the air pocket needs to stay where it was when the egg was laid. You can handle freshly laid eggs no worries, but you turn them over and you lose the egg. What snakes do you keep? ;D
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Post by malibubarbie on Dec 15, 2009 9:39:42 GMT
Thats true - you have to be vay careful to place the eggs, but that being said ive hatched a clutch of geckos that had been in a egg container that i accidently droped on the floor 2/3 of the time through, but they were just fine No snakes.... I keep and breed breed leopardgeckos and gargoyle geckos
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